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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tarmop on January 28, 2021, 03:14:07 PM
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Alternate options for non existent coil/cdi drifter 340
Hello all
Can’t find a replacement for my coil/cdi for a 1980 drifter 340
Does anyone know if there is another system I can put on fairly easily from another sled that’s is more available?
Thanks
T
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The PN for that is 21049-3002 "coil exciter" which is for SA340 A4 and SC340 A1 with is the same as the 340 F/A sled. Funny thing in that the 1980 Invader and Intruders is PN 21049-3002. They should be out there some place. Hope this helps. ;D
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oh ok,
thanks!
I thought the part number was
21119-3006
thats what I got from the book anyways.
cross ref to JD
am 55106
thats a coil and cdi in one....
i put it in the oven tonight just incase it works ha ha
what do you think about the part numbers I have?
cheers
T
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i think the PN you provided may be for an exciter coil,
the part im looking for is the ignition coil/cdi combination.
let me know your thoughts
thanks for your time
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I am finding a conflict in my books, here is what I found. 1st 2 pics are from the parts book for that sled. 3rd pic is from the 1980 retail price guide and the last one is from a 1989 retail price guide.
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well, theres a guy in Czec Republic who is going to make me one!!
so I sent him specs, see what happens :)
someone else on kijiji in ONtario is looking for one aswell so I am thinking we may get a pair from this guy,
Ill post back when I know if it worked,
his website is
https://www.ignitech.cz/en/
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That should be interesting. Just to help make sure we are talking apples and apples here, does the motor still have it's tag and if you look at the parts diagram in the first picture what is the item number of the part you are after? Thanks
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I did not get a look at numbers today.
I will tmr.
Got spark again.
Took it out and 10 min later no sparky.
Ugh .....
Hope it’s not the stator.
I don’t believe so because even when I do t get spark I still have good resistance values
And ac voltage from stator.
But it could be intermittent I suppose.
🤦🏽🤷🏽♂️
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This sled has a kill switch? Maybe it is just a bad connection someplace???
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As far as understand.
When the electrical connection from the harness is unplugged from the cdi/ stator
It takes the kill switch and the key and lights out of the equation
The sled will still run.
I have tested that theory
When the sled is running I can unplug the harness and the sled still runs and turning the kill switch on and off has no effect.
Plug the harness back in and the switch will kill the sled.
So this is not a kill switch prob.
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OK. I did a little more digging in a 1984 parts retail price guide. It shows a substitute for 21049-3002 as 21003-3007 and a key model of SC340-A2 . The SC340-A2 was maybe a 2nd free air model that never got off the drawing board?? I then looked in the parts book for the 81 Drifter and it shows 21049-3002 for both 340 and 440 sleds. 21049-3002 also was used on 81 Intruder ST440-A4. Not sure if this might help??
21119-3006 has a substitute PN of 21119-3023 but I have yet to find what the 21119-3023 was used in.
Argggggg!
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OK. I did a little more digging in a 1984 parts retail price guide. It shows a substitute for 21049-3002 as 21003-3007 and a key model of SC340-A2 . The SC340-A2 was maybe a 2nd free air model that never got off the drawing board?? I then looked in the parts book for the 81 Drifter and it shows 21049-3002 for both 340 and 440 sleds. 21049-3002 also was used on 81 Intruder ST440-A4. Not sure if this might help??
21119-3006 has a substitute PN of 21119-3023 but I have yet to find what the 21119-3023 was used in.
Argggggg!
A nice bit of research.
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My eyes were starting to get crossed near the end of that digging. The SC340-A2 is a very intriguing find.
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That should be interesting. Just to help make sure we are talking apples and apples here, does the motor still have it's tag and if you look at the parts diagram in the first picture what is the item number of the part you are after? Thanks
part #3
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OK. I did a little more digging in a 1984 parts retail price guide. It shows a substitute for 21049-3002 as 21003-3007 and a key model of SC340-A2 . The SC340-A2 was maybe a 2nd free air model that never got off the drawing board?? I then looked in the parts book for the 81 Drifter and it shows 21049-3002 for both 340 and 440 sleds. 21049-3002 also was used on 81 Intruder ST440-A4. Not sure if this might help??
21119-3006 has a substitute PN of 21119-3023 but I have yet to find what the 21119-3023 was used in.
Argggggg!
ya the part numbers 21049 are for the coil in the stator,
I am looking for the
21119 parts which are the ignition coil/cdi.
the guy in czec republic hasnt gotten back to me to accept payment to make the cdi yet so will see if it pans out.
i appreciate all your effort!
thanks for trying to help me keep this sled alive :)
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I know the cdi has an advance of 22*
so there must be another sleds cdi I can use that uses a seperate coil?
i mean will be some funky wiring but should be do able.
just not sure where to look.
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What publication did you get the 22* from. A picture of the unit and it's connector might help. I suspect that sometimes the only difference between units is the connector.
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got if from the service manual
heres some pics and specs
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What publication did you get the 22* from. A picture of the unit and it's connector might help. I suspect that sometimes the only difference between units is the connector.
this sleds ignition is unique because the ignition coil and cdi are in the same unit. I think they must have realized soon after that it would be better to separate them for replacment. If the sled was from 79 I believe it had points , and in 82 they seperated the coil from the cdi and there seems to be alot of replacement options from there on......
If someone can help me get this licked and figure out what the modified options are I know it will help more than just me. I came across an add on kijiji looking for a cdi/coil for this year drifter as well :)
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I ordered a cdi and coil for a 440, see what happens!
I changed out the stator with another I had just to be sure,
It fired right up and left me stranded 10 min later, then after it cooled down spark came back,
rode it back to the shop .
next day no spark again.
ill let you know if the 440 rig works.:)
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How did the 440 route go?
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How did the 440 route go?
Welcome to the site!!!! The F/A used the same coil but I guess you know that.