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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: mswyka on April 21, 2018, 02:37:57 PM

Title: Opinion on Crank Seals
Post by: mswyka on April 21, 2018, 02:37:57 PM
NOS engine assembled, in storage for 35 years, never run.

Should the crank seals be changed?
Title: Re: Opinion on Crank Seals
Post by: Interceptor398 on April 21, 2018, 02:53:21 PM
Start with a leak down test, put some hours on it and test it again.  The rubber is still old rubber.
Title: Re: Opinion on Crank Seals
Post by: rminier on April 22, 2018, 06:30:51 AM
 I don't think I would trust them, even if they held with a leak down test. It wouldn't be a terrible job to just remove the bottom crankcase half and change them for the peace of mind.
Title: Re: Opinion on Crank Seals
Post by: mswyka on April 22, 2018, 12:52:35 PM
Sounds like good counsel. 

But this made me ask myself another question regarding replacing crank seals.

What is the true age of the replacement crank seals that we are buying?  I like to think that they are new, but is it possible, in some instances that I could be buying 30 year old seals?
Title: Re: Opinion on Crank Seals
Post by: rminier on April 22, 2018, 06:21:05 PM
 Good point. With most things related to vintage sleds I would prefer OEM stuff.....thing such as pistons, etc. But a rubber item is a whole different ball game. Even if they are sealed up in a plastic wrapper, they are nearly 40 years old
 I have had great luck with Winderosa gaskets and seal kits in all my sleds....literally all of my sleds listed below have Winderosa crank seals.
 But, I know some very knowledgeable people on here have had trouble with them, mainly with the head gaskets leaking.
I'm going with Winderosa seals on the new Invader that I picked up, but I may tear into it enough to look at the top end, then I would probably prefer OEM gaskets for the cylinder base and head gaskets.
Title: Re: Opinion on Crank Seals
Post by: gixxer6 on April 23, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
Which engine?  If it were a NOS 550, I would change them.  But if it were say, a Drifter motor  ;) , I would run it.  Two reasons, I believe the fanners are more forgiving than the ultra high performance liquid 550’s.  And it’s relatively low risk, drifter parts are much easier/cheaper than 550 stuff. 
Title: Re: Opinion on Crank Seals
Post by: sprocket on April 28, 2018, 07:00:17 AM
I wouldn't be afraid of running seals that are 40yrs old as long you check them over.