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Title: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 04, 2021, 07:43:39 AM
Hi all!
Mid summer and still working on ol blue lol

I am needing some help on recoil
I have an 81 drifter 340

Recoil has been giving me trouble for years.
It comes apart on me.
I put new pawl kit. Same thing
I tried to buy a new one but they sent wrong size.
It’s smaller cup and reel than others
Part numbers are kind of confusing and it’s hard to cross reference for me

I’ve put at least 20 hours of my life taking it on and off.
Usually works for about 5-10 pulls then I need to take it apart again.

Seems the reel is bent and now I have to bend it back into shap and then after a few pulls it bends out of shape again .

Does anyone know which part numbers cross ref to the arctic cat version

Seems to be lots out there.
Or does anyone have one for sale?

Thanks a million
T
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 04, 2021, 08:03:41 AM
Can you get a picture or 2 of it when it has failed?
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 04, 2021, 09:08:59 AM
having issues posting at the moment
 but the 3 peices that hold the pawls in place are bending and shifting under load
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 04, 2021, 09:19:23 AM
this may be the part number for the recoil reel I need
59101-506

but its not coming up under that number anywhere, 
needs a cross ref
Found one on ebay under
3000-917
but not sure if its the same size

(cant post pics ...)
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 04, 2021, 09:20:26 AM
I think there are arctic cat recoils that will work... maybe spirit?
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 04, 2021, 10:01:36 PM
I have a couple of those sleds,  sometime in the next couple days I will give them a look.  The 81 Drifter is a 1 year motor but I'm not sure about the recoil??
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 05, 2021, 08:23:52 PM
Many Thanks :)
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 08, 2021, 02:45:42 PM
Here are the diagram and parts list for the 81 Drifter.  You can check to see that all the parts are there.

Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 09, 2021, 08:54:09 AM
Don’t have 17 or 18
But in my book those are only required for the 440 and I have the 340
It gets quite confusing when I start reading and comparing parts books and part number searches.
I do know that my cup and reel are smaller than most and I believe it’s the same recoil as the spirit recoils from arctic cat.
And they probably used the larger cup and reel on the 440

Maybe I should just get a new cup and recoil that match. ?
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 09, 2021, 08:55:39 AM
My reel is separated. I think that’s the big issue
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 09, 2021, 05:19:46 PM
this shows the **slide plate only used in 440..
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 09, 2021, 09:07:01 PM
I have both sleds and it seems that both should be the same???
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 09, 2021, 09:59:16 PM
well if you look closely at the page i uploaded from the manual  theres ** beside the slide plate large and small and it says 440 only.
Maybe im missinterpereting?
I ordered a new reel for a cat spirit recoil and a slide plate,  hopefully they fit!
if not ill order a new recoil and matching cup from something more modern and try and make it work.
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 10, 2021, 12:45:07 PM
You are correct,  I wonder what is the reason for that difference??
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 19, 2021, 05:52:32 PM
They look the same from the outside, at least mine do.
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Tarmop on August 26, 2021, 03:40:26 PM
I’m really at a loss on how to get this recoil working
The other recoil reel I bought fits the housing but is 1/8th too wide to fit the plate that holds the pawls in.
I need to find a compatible recoil and basket and just replace them both I guess.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thx
I’ve been way too many hours of my life on this recoil but without it the sled is just an anchor lol
Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 28, 2021, 09:08:26 AM
Here is a parts list for a 1980 Invader and Intruder.  It used the same parts you are missing and should be very common.

Title: Re: Recoil blues
Post by: Interceptor398 on August 28, 2021, 11:32:24 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/153544728294

They also have the other one but after looking at the reel picture again it does look to have come apart?  PN 59101-509 .