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mswyka

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Question for the Table
« on: April 27, 2019, 04:54:14 PM »
Today the last two sleds came home from Pilgrim Camp.  The 78 Intruder blew out the suspension shock on our last ride in March so I was going to swap in a new skid but then got a good look at this track.  I am open to thoughts and suggestions whether to continue to run this track as-is, re-stud and run this track, swap in a new or newer stock track - or could this become my first paddletrack sled?
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2019, 07:38:27 AM »
Paddle!

mswyka

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2019, 02:50:39 PM »
OK, one vote for paddle - by the way, how high can I go?
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2019, 05:45:29 PM »
Mark,

I have put in 1.5in paddles in my K without issues.  I am not sure how the stock suspension would handle the paddles but Polaris had my solutions...

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2019, 09:07:55 PM »
Mark,

I have put in 1.5in paddles in my K without issues.  I am not sure how the stock suspension would handle the paddles but Polaris had my solutions...

OK, I will take this as two votes for paddles
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2019, 03:39:33 PM »
 I really don't know what I would do.
I just remember gixxer6 commenting on here about installing a 1" track on an Invader and how much it improved the traction.
I look at my Kawi's, Sidewinder, and Blizzard and the track lugs are only about 1/2"....I can believe a 1" track would be amazing.
 I would love to try one of the new "Ice Attack" style tracks that have something like 244 carbide screws embedded in the track with a 1" lug. In a perfect world, that is what I would want to put on an Invader.
But, they are about 550 bucks!   :P
 Really, my '97 SkiDoo MXZ is the one out of all of my current sleds, that will need a new track before too long, so I may try one of those tracks on it.
Since I'm cheap, I would probably run your current track.   ;)
 I can tell you I got my '83 Yamaha Vmax in 1989. It had 96 of the old style studs, with the T nuts, in the track. They were pretty worn out. So, I removed all of the studs. I was worried that the open holes in the track might start to tear out, but after several thousand miles, the track is still holding together. But, it isn't the greatest solution.....one branch or something sticking up through the snow could snag one of those open holes and it would start to tear.
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75 SnoJet Astro SS, 79 Kawasaki Invader 440 (two of them), 81 Scorpion Sidewinder, 82 Blizzard 9500, 83 Yamaha Vmax 540, 97 MXZ 670....and holding...for now.

mswyka

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2019, 06:30:42 PM »
OK, so I am taking this as 2 votes for paddle track and one vote for run it the way it is.

By the way, here is what was left of the suspension shock.
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2019, 10:49:25 AM »
How about this track?
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2019, 07:31:51 AM »
That will make a big difference.

mswyka

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2019, 01:54:47 PM »
We will see how this track works.

We normally use only 48 studs.  This one looks like it has 144.

1" lug height and 1.25" stud height.
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2019, 10:01:18 PM »
Oh my!!

rminier

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2019, 12:37:47 PM »
 That should provide some serious TRACTION!   ;)
75 SnoJet Astro SS, 79 Kawasaki Invader 440 (two of them), 81 Scorpion Sidewinder, 82 Blizzard 9500, 83 Yamaha Vmax 540, 97 MXZ 670....and holding...for now.

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2019, 02:44:20 PM »
That should provide some serious TRACTION!   ;)

I am just praying that there is enough clearance and I don't end up ripping the tunnel out of the sled.  The plan right now is to add this to the 1981 Invader chassis.  I have another project that I need to complete first then I want to bring the tunnel into the garage and put it together to see if everything has enough clearance.
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

gixxer6

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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2019, 11:47:48 AM »
We will see how this track works.

We normally use only 48 studs.  This one looks like it has 144.

1" lug height and 1.25" stud height.

If it were me, I'd pull out 48 of them (maybe even more).  IMO, unless racing, anything over 96 is just added weight (especially with a 1" lug track). 

Looks like a great track though!  Track selection really depends on what you plan to do with the sled and what snow conditions it will see.  For me, a "digger" style short track fits my riding style and snow conditions in my area.  I went with a 1" lug on my 440 Invader, and run a 120" track with 1.25" lugs on my 160+ hp Ski-doo.  Although if I were to replace the Doo track I would go with a 1.5"...
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Re: Question for the Table
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2019, 12:49:43 AM »
Mark,

My 1.5 paddles sometimes touch and leave some rubber in the tunnel.  You had better have the hyfax (upside down) to protect your cooler.  Your going to sweat running those picks.  I'd personally pull the picks.