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Lloyd (ljm)

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2013, 05:42:21 PM »
When  it runs decent cold. I would still suspect the clutch.  But you did change it didn't you?
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mswyka

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2013, 06:24:48 PM »
Yes, we swapped in a clutch off of an 82 and I didn't see an appreciable difference.  Might get some snow tonight so maybe, just maybe by tomorrow we can give it a plugged primer test.

As far as clacking and rpm, I guess I initially thought it was the clutch, but what was curious last night is that none of the other sleds sounded the same.  I can't say much about RPMs because I kept it below 3800 so as not to engage.
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mswyka

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2013, 05:01:43 PM »
Well dog gone, if it ain't almost always in the last place you look!  Since we had a little snow this week I was able to take the sled for a trail ride and lo and behold, when the primer was plugged it ran almost like its old self.  We will need to get a chance to swap in a new primer and see what happens from there. 

After riding the 440 Invader even if the clacking was still there I would not have heard it.  That sled is really barking after this most recent rebuild.
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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2013, 05:30:26 PM »
That sled is really barking after this most recent rebuild.

Can't say I've ever heard a Kaw bark!   :D

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2013, 03:50:37 AM »
Once the sled is warmed up, put a hose between the primer barbs on the carbs. it won't suck in fuel and if you leave one side of the hoses extra long going to the Y piece, you can bypass the primer.

mswyka

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2014, 08:35:03 PM »
We have had a few days of snow out here in NY.  And with guests in town we put this Intruder to work and did not seem to have a problem - until tonight and now I think that we have pinpointed the problem.  On a short trail ride this evening we came to a road crossing and the sled just plain refused to cross.  Engine running fine, we were getting some really good belt stink.  Turns out the brake was locked up.  Plenty of play in the brake arm, but the brake disk didn't want to spin for anything.  Good thing we were near a road, that sled was not getting home any other way without disassembling the brake caliper first.  So this is apparently why the sled would run better cold than hot.  After it had a chance to spin the disk must have warmed up and started to stick to the pads - or vice-versa.  Some of these problems are really hard to diagnose without a little snow - which is something that we have not had much of over the past few years.
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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2014, 12:54:19 AM »
I know you wanted to grease that rotor up so it moves easier!!  (just kidding)

** Warning- this was meant as a joke. If you grease the brake rotor, it WILL NOT STOP when you apply the brakes**  for those of you who might think to try this....

mswyka

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2014, 06:17:41 AM »
I know you wanted to grease that rotor up so it moves easier!!  (just kidding)

** Warning- this was meant as a joke. If you grease the brake rotor, it WILL NOT STOP when you apply the brakes**  for those of you who might think to try this....

Jim, hadn't thought of that actually.  What I was questioning was whether to replace in kind or to update to 81/82 chaincase, jackshaft and brake system.
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Lloyd (ljm)

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2014, 10:00:36 AM »


 Could you swap a hydraulic brake on it?
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mswyka

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2014, 12:46:45 PM »


 Could you swap a hydraulic brake on it?

I suppose I could if I had one. 
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mswyka

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2014, 12:47:48 PM »
I know you wanted to grease that rotor up so it moves easier!!  (just kidding)

** Warning- this was meant as a joke. If you grease the brake rotor, it WILL NOT STOP when you apply the brakes**  for those of you who might think to try this....

Jim, decided just  to remove the brake caliper.  Has no trouble going now!
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jimvw57

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2014, 02:08:38 PM »
Brakes?? we don't need no stinkin Brakes......

mswyka

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2014, 04:41:10 PM »
Brakes?? we don't need no stinkin Brakes......

Might as well reverse direction on the track while we are at it!
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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2014, 05:07:48 PM »
HaaHaaHaa I've read interesting things about that. :)
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Lloyd (ljm)

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Re: Intruder needs help or maybe just getting tired?
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2014, 05:14:29 PM »

 
 What else could you do. Take the wear bars off the ski's so there is less resistance.  :)




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78 Intruder
79 340 Invader
80 440 Invader
80 Drifter (bought new)
80 LTD 4/6    X2

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