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Boise_chief

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Older sleds
« on: January 24, 2018, 02:55:26 PM »
I have 4 Kawasaki sleds
3 77 440 invaders f/c
And a 78 intruder w/c
At least I think this is right.

2 of the invaders are sequentail vin numbers and have been together since new.

I am wanting to sell them but wanted a little advice.

Should I get them in running condition replace shocks etc. Or, sell them as is. The 78 runs, I cleaned the tank replaced fuel lines and cleaned carbs etc and it fired up.  Then I found this site and realized it needs more work before I go riding it.

Any advice would be appreciated.

mswyka

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Re: Older sleds
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2018, 07:12:42 PM »
Sounds like an interesting problem to have.  If you are looking at the build dates on the tunnel, a 77 build date is for a 78 sled and a 78 build date is for a 79 sled.  Invaders are liquid cooled and Intruders are fan cooled.

Do you have photos?
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

Interceptor398

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Re: Older sleds
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2018, 07:26:09 PM »
Consecutive serial numbers would be a plus for some.

Boise_chief

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Re: Older sleds
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2018, 08:17:02 PM »
I can post pictures tomorrow I will be down at the shop tomorrow. I have no idea of value on them as they sit.

If it helps here are vins
78's.  St440a006137
           St440a005895
            St440a005894

79 ss440a011140

They were all sold to a family in the boise area and the story I had was that the son was hurt riding and they parked them in the 80's.  All are low miles apprx 1000 miles or so. I will check tomorrow. 


Is it worth my time to do a partial resto. Ie. Seat fuel system shocks etc. Or would I be better to find someone that wants to do it themselves.

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Re: Older sleds
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2018, 07:26:24 AM »
As far as fixing them up it depends on what you think your time is worth and do you enjoy that kind of stuff?

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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2018, 07:41:27 AM »
This should help you figure out exactly what you have:  http://kawasakitrax.com/models.htm

As far as fixing them up before selling, it's really hard to say.  If a new seat cover and some cleaning and maintenance would make a show sled, then yes I think it would be worth it.  If they are a little rough around the edges, then just get them running, slap some black duct tape on the seat and sell them as riders.  But this may vary depending on your local market.  Good luck.   :)

Boise_chief

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2018, 08:42:35 AM »
I will post pics of 3 of them today 2 78 and the 79.
I.did some reading yesterday and I have a few more questions.

How difficult is replacing the crank seal. Time est?

How well do they ride once they are right. Currently they feel like they have almost no suspension.  Maybe I will want to keep one or 2

mswyka

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2018, 11:39:29 AM »
This is just my personal opinion - the value of which may be only as much as what i was paid to offer it:

If I am buying a snowmobile I would much prefer doing the fix up work myself rather than having a former owner slap on a band aid only to find out later that there are bigger issues under the surface.  (Like the one sled that came in looking pretty good but ended up that it actually had a bent crankshaft that shook the engine apart)

And, considering that every sled we bring in at a minimum receives new pistons, rings, jets, fuel needles, fuel line, filters, gaskets, and carb flanges - this alone equates to about $300 in parts and a day's worth of time.  So on that basis, and reading between the lines above, it probably makes the most sense for you to offer them for sale as is.

However, be forewarned, that if you do decide to start down the road of fixing one of these sleds - even if you are only saying to yourself that i am fixing it just to increase its value so that i can sell it - you run the very real risk of contracting the dread condition colloquially known as Mad Kaw Disease.   Be equally forewarned, there is no known cure or antidote -and a plethora of crank seals are, at best, only symptom relievers. 
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2018, 01:26:42 PM »
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mswyka

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2018, 01:52:10 PM »
2,900 miles on the Invader.  Without a prior rebuild, that would generally be end of life for a set of pistons - and likely crank seals.  But the hood and dash seem to be in good shape.
Intruders:  1978, 1979, 1981 Custom (Pink)
Invaders:   1980 440
Projects:    1981 Invader 440

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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2018, 01:55:09 PM »
The 79 is the invader without the seat. I have it in the shop to do a quickie recover.  The pictures mixed up in my phone and I wasn't smart enough in the beginning to post multiple pictures.

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Re: Older sleds
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2018, 04:22:21 PM »
Nice looking sleds!